Stimulus item by item

[primsong]

Just a brief political note for those in the States - Thanks to Stef for the pointer. Anyone interested in knowing exactly how many porky ornaments have been buried in the stimulus package may want to take a look over here where they've broken it down into an item-by-item list that can be voted on:

http://www.daylightnetwork.com/senate-stimulus

Be sure to let your reps and senators know what your own thoughts might be, pass the word.

Comments

[siradaono.livejournal.com]

What should we expect from Dems in control....something conservative?

America gets what it deserves...everytime.

no matter how you look at it we lose.

If not for the kids and g-kids, Tine and I would sell it all and move back to Bavaria.

I am thankful I grew up and lived in the time, the history, I have.
I pity those behind us.

Maranantha

Even So Lord Jesus Come!
Amen

Sorry for rant Prim
use the mop if you wanna

[primsong.livejournal.com]

You have relatives in Bavaria? Can we sleep in their barn? :-P

[siradaono.livejournal.com]

Tine's sister in Bayreuth lived in her father-inlaws old home (very nice and roomy with huge garden and lots of wood inside and staircases) where Hitler would visit the father in law when he came to watch the Wagner Operas and see his friends.

Yes I sat in the chair and rooms where Hitler stayed..small world.
They have horses and a small horse ranch too.
Brewmeister retired, but tours and free bier and food abound.


homesick just thinking of it

We lived in Kulmbach, try an image google search to see out hometown there, where Tine grew up and we were married.

lots of good memories.

Today my father told me he has fuild in his lungs and his heart is failing, he maybe a week or two he was told by his doctors.

yes
Prayers for Steve would be good.

Thanks for being my friend

(((((Amy)))))

[primsong.livejournal.com]

It's beautiful! No wonder you would be homesick for such a place.

God be with your dad, your family and the doctors too.

[estellye.livejournal.com]

What in the world is all that nonsense? I thought we were trying to jump start the economy and create jobs with this package. And yet I hear from ScienceDebate that they have cut nearly all of the proposed funding for scientific innovation that might actually do something helpful like creating jobs, retaining them in the US, encouraging young people to major in science and, oh I don't know, saving the future. But we have a smoking sessation program - admirable but hardly directly relevant to the situation. And apparently we are assisting non-ambulatory cattle. I am sure they will appreciate the assistance and I'd hate to imagine them unassisted, but is this really the time?

The seemingly random public works things at least make sense in terms of people actually working, and you know, getting paid, and eating and so forth, but come on! How do they sleep at night with some of this stuff.

It reminds me of the eternal bickering represented in "1776" where they shredded the Declaration of Independence and John Adams loses it at "Fishing rights!?"

[primsong.livejournal.com]

Maybe we can feed all the non-ambulatory cattle to the starving hordes that will be not only unemployed but in withdrawls from nicotine...

[iorhael94.livejournal.com]

Thanks for sending this...I have been wanting to see details on this. You know, some of these may look porky on the surface but when you dig deeper, you can see how they can really help...Bob helped me see that on a few I read to him. I am going to go through it more carefully in the next couple of days. Thanks again!

[primsong.livejournal.com]

There are a few items in there that I completely agree with - but others.... yeah. I just automatically get suspicious when the gov't gets in a 'big hurry' to pass something before it can be properly discussed or adjusted.

[primsong.livejournal.com]

Oh - and I'm curious what you think of this:

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/02/unreal-democrats-stimulus-bill-bans.html

What an interesting thing to add to a stimulus bill.

[iorhael94.livejournal.com]

I do wonder about the smoking cessation programs but hey, if these programs that may seem a bit porky create jobs, I'm all for it right now. We need every job we can get in this country (including web designers ;o!) (Ordinarily I wouldn't feel this way because, having worked for the Govt for ten years, I have seen the bureaucracy and overspending up close and personal, so I am more for smaller govt myself. But we are in a desperate situation right now :(

After the country is back on its feet financially and the way Wall Street, banks, and big corporations operate has been restructured then we can streamline federal funding a bit, but not right now.

On the link you sent:

"Funds may not be used for the "modernization, renovation, or repair of facilities-- used for sectarian instruction, religious worship, or a school or department of divinity; or in which a substantial portion of the functions of the facilities are subsumed in a religious mission." When I was in college, our Inter-Varsity would meet in a classroom. This would not count as the building was mainly used for educational purposes. So I honestly think that the people who wrote up that blog entry and Senator Dement really don't have anything to fear.

And the new administration definitely does support faith-based organizations: "Among the many items in the proposed economic stimulus bill, HR 1, The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, is a provision for funding of $100 million for grants to faith-based organization through the Compassion Capital Fund [at pg. 141 of bill]."

And just a thought....should Christians and other faiths really be relying on the Federal Government for funds to operate? Back to my college days, we had two buildings near but not on campus, a Baptist Student Union and a Christian Community Center (which I think was funded by the Catholic church) and they both thrived. I personally wouldn't want our Christian organizations under the cover of the federal government....looking back to the early days ..Christianity survived and grew when it under a very repressive government...same with Christians in Russia during the Soviet rule. Not that I am comparing our government to those situations, but still I think that separation of church and state is a very good thing! ;)

Bob and I are going to a Economic Recovery house meeting tonight so I'm sure we will learn a lot there, which I will be happy to pass on to you :)