Ye Olde Latin Wit
Dec. 9th, 2009 09:59 amI got a copy of three of Cicero's essays - very cool book with the Latin on one side and the English on the other so you can compare straight across. First of all let me say On Old Age should be required reading - seriously! Fabulous stuff. Anyone middle-aged and up should totally get forthwith to the nearest library or bookstore and find this to read.
Secondly, his On Divination has been vastly amusing to me.
(regarding cocks crowing being hailed as a sign of military victory) - "And is it true that these fowls are not accustomed to crow except when they are victorious?...'Oh, that was a portent' you say. A fine portent indeed! you talk as if it were a fish and not a cock had done the crowing."
(regarding thunder and lightning as signs from the gods) - "...And so we find it recorded 'When Jove thunders or lightens it is impious to hold an election.' This was ordained, perhaps, from reasons of political expediency; for our ancestors wished to have some excuse for not holding elections sometimes." and "Is it passing strange, if Jupiter warns us by means of thunderbolts that he sends so many to no purpose! What, for example is his object in hurling them into the middle of the sea?...and why does he fling them on the shores of people who do not take any notice of them?"
(regarding portents) - "Now if a thing is to be considered a portent because it is seldom seen then a wise man is a portent; for as I think, it oftener happens that a mule brings forth a colt than that nature produces a sage." and "A man referred to him for interpretation as a portent the fact that a snake was seen at his house, coiled about a beam. 'That was not a portent...it would have been if the beam had been wrapped about the snake.'"
(regarding mice chewing on wooden shields being seen as a sign of defeat) - "But are we simple and thoughtless enough to think it is a portent for mice to gnaw something when gnawing is their one business in life?... as if it mattered one whit whether mice, which are gnawing something day and night, gnawed shields or sieves! Hence, by the same token, the fact that, at my house, mice recently gnawed my Plato's Republic should fill me with alarm for the Roman republic; or if they had gnawed my Epicurus On Pleasure I should have expected a rise in the market price of food!"
*(a book implying gourmands increase food demand)
I would have loved to have seen Cicero in a televised debate. X-D
Secondly, his On Divination has been vastly amusing to me.
(regarding cocks crowing being hailed as a sign of military victory) - "And is it true that these fowls are not accustomed to crow except when they are victorious?...'Oh, that was a portent' you say. A fine portent indeed! you talk as if it were a fish and not a cock had done the crowing."
(regarding thunder and lightning as signs from the gods) - "...And so we find it recorded 'When Jove thunders or lightens it is impious to hold an election.' This was ordained, perhaps, from reasons of political expediency; for our ancestors wished to have some excuse for not holding elections sometimes." and "Is it passing strange, if Jupiter warns us by means of thunderbolts that he sends so many to no purpose! What, for example is his object in hurling them into the middle of the sea?...and why does he fling them on the shores of people who do not take any notice of them?"
(regarding portents) - "Now if a thing is to be considered a portent because it is seldom seen then a wise man is a portent; for as I think, it oftener happens that a mule brings forth a colt than that nature produces a sage." and "A man referred to him for interpretation as a portent the fact that a snake was seen at his house, coiled about a beam. 'That was not a portent...it would have been if the beam had been wrapped about the snake.'"
(regarding mice chewing on wooden shields being seen as a sign of defeat) - "But are we simple and thoughtless enough to think it is a portent for mice to gnaw something when gnawing is their one business in life?... as if it mattered one whit whether mice, which are gnawing something day and night, gnawed shields or sieves! Hence, by the same token, the fact that, at my house, mice recently gnawed my Plato's Republic should fill me with alarm for the Roman republic; or if they had gnawed my Epicurus On Pleasure I should have expected a rise in the market price of food!"
*(a book implying gourmands increase food demand)
I would have loved to have seen Cicero in a televised debate. X-D
Re: cicero
Date: 2009-12-10 06:06 am (UTC)I still want to somehow reach back through time and throttle the unspeakable blots who had him killed. We need more people like this, and they come along all too infrequently.